tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post1597345387169691779..comments2024-01-31T03:00:37.150-05:00Comments on View-from-Wilmington: Eighteen claims about Edda Mellas’s interviewsChris Halkideshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-24388029808455186872010-08-16T10:09:00.188-04:002010-08-16T10:09:00.188-04:00MeowPurr,
I agree. What I find so troubling is t...MeowPurr,<br /><br />I agree. What I find so troubling is that the stated reason for listing the eighteen alleged false claims in the first place was to chide the media for relying upon Ms. Mellas for supposedly inaccurate information. Yet The Machine does not wish to acknowledge and correct her own misstatements. This gives one less confidence in the sites at which she posts.Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-34809344389885202182010-08-15T12:57:46.556-04:002010-08-15T12:57:46.556-04:00I have noticed how the Machine gets all bent out o...I have noticed how the Machine gets all bent out of shape when she asks those silly questions and posters do not respond. I also noticed how she did not respond to the comments here about her eighteen claims or at JREF about her twenty questions. It appears she is not really interested in getting any answers to her questions nor is she interested in an open and honest debate about her claims.MeowPurrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-202783915559450432010-08-13T16:43:39.756-04:002010-08-13T16:43:39.756-04:00Not many people visit this blog...
I can see why t...Not many people visit this blog...<br />I can see why that is, but the blog owner doesn't.A visitornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-71112103004100172312010-08-10T13:52:41.181-04:002010-08-10T13:52:41.181-04:00I don't know what the translation is good for....I don't know what the translation is good for. To ruminate the same old crap? My followers and I didn't even read the Italian original, but this evening we are watching in FRANCE2 the affair of the equally innocently jailed "murderer" Richard Roman in the series "Faites entrer l'accusé".http://bit.ly/4AAbQ2<br /><br />Amanda and Raffaele and Rudy need friends who have the stamina to support THEM, and no futile Farmvilling.<br />Otherwise they will be lost.http://freeamanda.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-28819058850504838662010-08-10T11:11:25.635-04:002010-08-10T11:11:25.635-04:00I agree with Andrea Vogt that the PMF translation ...I agree with Andrea Vogt that the PMF translation efforts should be commended. I would like to stress however, that being critical of those on the defense side for not having translations of the appeals ready is not a fair comment. The Massei report has been out much longer than the appeals and I know there are efforts underway to provide good summaries of the appeals as well as human translations. Both of these appeals are several hundred pages in length and as demonstrated by the PMF efforts, these things take time. <br><br />As in the case with the PMF efforts , I know for a fact that one translation is being done on a voluntary basis (unpaid) and that this is a huge effort to undertake.RoseMontaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-82510192506909506002010-08-10T09:45:37.928-04:002010-08-10T09:45:37.928-04:00Today they are twittering around Andrea Vogt's...Today they are twittering around Andrea Vogt's article about the English translation of the Perugia Witch Trial:<br />http://www.seattlepi.com/local/424772_knox10.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=whiten+teethhttp://twitter.com:/FreeAmandaKnoxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-24575650957522812952010-08-10T03:44:56.442-04:002010-08-10T03:44:56.442-04:00I wonder when the Machine's next article "...I wonder when the Machine's next article "The Lies and deceptions of Grandma Huff" will be released.<br /><br />1. Amanda is innocent.<br />2. Amanda has always been a truthful and honest girl.<br />3. I love and miss my Granddaughter.<br /><br />He would stoop that low, no doubt about it.Zooksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-83760033310452016242010-08-09T13:47:48.510-04:002010-08-09T13:47:48.510-04:00Massimo Carlotto was also falsely accused to have ...Massimo Carlotto was also falsely accused to have killed a student. He was a fugitive during 5 years, and in prison 6 years. This means: 11 years persecuted.<br />He wrote a bestseller in Italian (and in German). Maybe you find something in English about him.<br />Anyway, similar cases in Italy, Germany, France etc rarely are brought to the knowledge of the Anglophones. There is a reason for this... In America and UK too justice is corrupt.<br />http://www.massimocarlotto.it/fuggiasco.htmlhttp://twitter.com/FreeAmandaKnoxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-23750472624555679112010-08-08T17:41:05.180-04:002010-08-08T17:41:05.180-04:00As a matter of fact, it's a problem of lack of...As a matter of fact, it's a problem of lack of professional and neutral interpreter from the very beginning (I am a professional interpreter).<br /><br />If Amanda had had a lawyer at the beginning, he could have provided a real interpreter. But I doubt if this one would have been from outside Perugia. If he/she is from Perugia, he/she has to fear pressure/retaliation.<br /><br />During the trial, Amanda should have had one of the best interpreters of Italy or from USA/UK. This was not the case. BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY!!!!<br /><br />The worse was when she tried to take her stand herself in Italian language. For Italian ears she sounded (especially the "maschera" stunt) too artificial. <br />Through Frank Sfarzo I had tried before to get the message through to her parents that they should take a good interpreter, before this even started. A friend of mine nearby is a professional one, and could have done this even free of charge, but he considered that he had not enough time to get familiarized. Hence this catastrophe.<br />But the question is: the jurors, equally from Perugia, would they have acquitted her even then???http://freeamanda.livejournal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-77277075831241096762010-08-08T12:49:33.733-04:002010-08-08T12:49:33.733-04:00I thought I had remembered seeing a list of those ...I thought I had remembered seeing a list of those that received service awards but I am unable to pin it down. I did find and interesting quote about her "job duties" however:<br /><br /><i>"Under cross-examination she described her role as that of a "mediator" rather than a mere translator of words."</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/13/kercher-knox-trial" rel="nofollow">Knox Clashes With Interpreter</a><br /><br />That seems to me to be an unusual role for an interpreter. I guess my next question is regarding Italian Law and if there is a defined role that an interpreter can play and if there are limits to what role they can take?RoseMontaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-35169875020818662882010-08-07T23:09:10.938-04:002010-08-07T23:09:10.938-04:00Rose,
To answer your first question, yes. I am un...Rose,<br /><br />To answer your first question, yes. I am unsure of the answer to your second question.<br /><br />ChristianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-48141999250763077952010-08-07T22:20:31.826-04:002010-08-07T22:20:31.826-04:00I was wondering if there has been any action taken...I was wondering if there has been any action taken on the Aviello claims. Also is there mention made of the multiple dna findings on the bra clasp in the appeal. I believe lie dectector tests should be given to the police and Mignini to see if they are lying about Amandas interrogation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-62043700681808551232010-08-07T13:55:46.873-04:002010-08-07T13:55:46.873-04:00Thank you Christiana and anon @ 12:07PM. I am sti...Thank you Christiana and anon @ 12:07PM. I am still not certain of her status or her official job duties. <br> Do you know if she is part of the group of police officers that are suing Amanda? <br> Do you know if she was part of the group that got an award for their efforts in bringing Amanda to justice?RoseMontaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-19439716272060772812010-08-07T12:07:57.872-04:002010-08-07T12:07:57.872-04:00Per ANDREA VOGT / March 13, 2009:
Addressing the...Per ANDREA VOGT / March 13, 2009:<br /><br /><br />Addressing the jury Friday, Knox insisted they were not hearing the whole truth about the interrogation that led to her arrest.<br /><br />Her stepfather, Chris Mellas, looking on, she said she was pressured by her interpreter, pestered repeatedly about Lumumba, even slapped in the head by police. "There were hours and hours that they don't talk about that I stuck to my same story," Knox said in Italian. "I was called 'stupid liar.'"<br /><br />Anna Donnino, the interpreter who assisted during the interrogation, said she tried to establish trust with Knox, who was struggling to offer investigators a credible defense. Donnino told the suspect that she once broke her leg in an accident but suffered so much trauma she couldn't remember anything about it afterward.<br /><br />But Knox said her interpreter's "traumatization" was actually used to pressure her. "Ms. Donnino then later suggested that ... perhaps I didn't remember well because I had been traumatized, and so I should try to remember something else.<br />"And then there were these slaps to the head that I really did receive," she said. "I'm sorry, but it's true."<br />-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-13144040370305163062010-08-07T09:25:57.069-04:002010-08-07T09:25:57.069-04:00Rose,
I believe there were three interpreters emp...Rose,<br /><br />I believe there were three interpreters employed during the investigation (though I have not researched enough to know exact details of when they were used); Anna Donnino, Aida Colantone and Fabio D'Astolto. <br /><br />Anna Donnino was called the night of 5/6 November, D'Astolto is an English-speaking Perugian officer (not sure if he is an official interpreter) and Colantone is an interpreter with the Ministry of Interior. <br /><br />Here is the google cache with the three names highlighted. The information is posted on True Justice, however, it comes from various news sources posted there. <br /><br /><a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fdXnjK_EimUJ:www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php%3F/P460/+Interpreters+Anna+Donnino,+Aida+Colantone+and+Fabio+D%27Astolto+knox+case&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=hp" rel="nofollow">Google Cache Interpreters</a><br /><br />ChristianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-3631995149941852552010-08-07T05:24:31.986-04:002010-08-07T05:24:31.986-04:00Bob,
I am interested in your response to Claim 15:...Bob,<br />I am interested in your response to Claim 15:<br /><br /><i>"Amanda Knox was provided with an interrogator (Anna Donninio) who could speak English, not an interpreter. Anna Donninio did not play a neutral role; Anna Donninio was one of the interrogators; Anna Donninio may well have been the interrogator who struck Amanda."</i><br /><br />In both the verbales, 01:45 and 05:45 it lists Donninio as the "English-speaking interpreter". What is her official position with the police?RoseMontaguenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-58313614031772725762010-08-06T23:02:23.686-04:002010-08-06T23:02:23.686-04:00You guys are awesome. Love the analysis.
Observe...You guys are awesome. Love the analysis.<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-5418308700116554482010-08-06T20:38:30.915-04:002010-08-06T20:38:30.915-04:00"Another example of DNA contamination is the ..."Another example of DNA contamination is the Phantom of Heilbronn".<br /><br />Thanks for pointing it out. And, wow, now that's a real doozy.lane99noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-44132532158297113712010-08-06T20:32:19.745-04:002010-08-06T20:32:19.745-04:00Thanks for the info Chris and Christiana. I don...Thanks for the info Chris and Christiana. I don't remember reading anything anywhere about the white bag being tested, though I guess that doesn't mean it wasn't. Perhaps one way of finding out would be to see if it's visible anywhere in the later crime scene photos (like the lamps and the various other things that were still in the room during the later visits). <br /><br />I think Massei says they concentrated on areas of visible blood stains, so it might be that they didn't test it.Katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-35999508012492140052010-08-06T18:37:59.978-04:002010-08-06T18:37:59.978-04:00Chris,
I did not mean to imply that Charlie Wilke...Chris,<br /><br />I did not mean to imply that Charlie Wilkes' document was intentionally altered to hide information, just that the title suggests that there are more items that were collected and/or tested. <br /><br />I cannot say whether the beige tote was tested or how many items were collected and/or tested. While I appreciate Charlie's efforts to provide the information to the public, I wish there was access to the raw data. <br /><br />I have purposely not read any of the books concerning the case, instead muddling through the motivations and now the appeals (and also reading the early news reports up to the present date). To have been in court would be the best of all. <br /><br />I plan to read the books on the case soon (they appear as if they would be fast reads) and will see how they compare to each other, the motivations and the appeals. <br /><br />ChristianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-78131213493757580522010-08-06T18:15:33.425-04:002010-08-06T18:15:33.425-04:00Christiana,
In a post at True Justice for Meredit...Christiana,<br /><br />In a post at <a href="http://www.truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/understanding_micheli_3_how_damning_is_the_dna_evidence_coming_up/" rel="nofollow">True Justice for Meredith</a>, Rudy’s DNA was said to be on Meredith’s left cuff. If that is true, it is rather interesting.<br /><br />About the pdf file of DNA results: Charlie Wilkes said that he only left out the knife DNA and some unimportant results that were not from the girls’ flat, IIRC. The fact that he called them selected results gave rise to some wildly speculative and in some cases erroneous comments on another discussion forum.Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-59771485162576191712010-08-06T17:57:17.098-04:002010-08-06T17:57:17.098-04:00Ah, I just noticed Christiana said that Meredith&#...<i>Ah, I just noticed Christiana said that Meredith's friends testified Meredith was carrying the 'beige tote'. So if that's the one on the floor, wonder if it was ever tested...?</i><br /><br />Kate,<br /><br />I am not sure if it was tested or not, however, it has been stated on JREF by Charlie Wilkes and on PMF that Rudy's DNA was recovered inside Meredith, on her bra, on the sleeve of her jacket and on the outside of her brown handbag (if there are other places where his DNA was found please correct). <br /><br />Charlie Wilkes has provided a pdf of Selected DNA Results, but as the title suggests, the document did not include all items that were tested.<br /><br />ChristianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-84575989686493043312010-08-06T16:58:46.489-04:002010-08-06T16:58:46.489-04:00Ah, I just noticed Christiana said that Meredith&#...Ah, I just noticed Christiana said that Meredith's friends testified Meredith was carrying the 'beige tote'. So if that's the one on the floor, wonder if it was ever tested...?Katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-18550970719905069592010-08-06T16:49:43.340-04:002010-08-06T16:49:43.340-04:00On False Claim 14: the "erroneous assumption&...On False Claim 14: the "erroneous assumption", this is one of those things that gets repeated over and over again that really bugs me. I nearly even went and posted on PMF about it, LOL. As you say Chris, an 'erroneous assumption' isn't the same thing as an 'erroneous belief' anyway, in that the former implies the basis for the assumption is flawed, not that the conclusion reached on that basis is false.<br /><br />But in fact, the phrase Bongiorno uses isn't "erroneous assumption" anyway: she says "l’indebito presupposto", 'indebito' meaning 'undeserved', 'unwarranted', 'unjustified' - an assumption for which there isn't enough basis, which cannot be justified. So that makes it even clearer that Bongiorno is saying here that the Court has made an assumption without providing enough evidence to support it. She's not saying they were together or that they weren't together; she's challenging the Court to provide the evidence it NEEDS to provide if it's going to transfer evidence to Sollecito on the basis of an unsupported assumption.<br /><br />And last is the obvious point that this is a legal argument, not some kind of categorical statement of Raffaele's position. It's either very naive or (more likely!) the product of wishful thinking to try and turn a carefully crafted legal statement into Raffaele 'throwing Amanda under the bus'...Katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8731849270338485723.post-74994861057262622752010-08-06T16:36:05.296-04:002010-08-06T16:36:05.296-04:00Christiana wrote: It appears that Meredith was not...<i>Christiana wrote: It appears that Meredith was not carrying the brown handbag the night of her murder. Two photos are available on PMF - one of the brown handbag; another of a beige tote. The brown handbag was empty - apparently not because the contents had been taken but because Meredith was using the beige tote that night (according to testimony from her friends). A fair assumption would be that Meredith's cell phones, wallet, etc. were also in the beige tote. </i><br /><br />Where does this information about Meredith carrying the white bag instead of the brown one come from...? Both bags can be described as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tote_bag" rel="nofollow">tote bags</a>, so that can't be it. If the brown bag was empty, isn't that most likely because the killer(s) emptied out the contents in the process of stealing the phones/keys/wallet? Even when I empty things from one bag to another, there's usually a bunch of things left in the other bag, even if just dockets and loose coins and so on. The brown bag looked like it had been turned upside down and emptied.<br /><br />The idea that Meredith was carrying the other bag seems like another wild conclusion they've leapt to on PMF on the basis of nothing in particular. Presumably the police would've checked with Meredith's friends which bag she was carrying that night, and that's the bag they'd have been most interested in testing. They definitely tested the brown one - did they ever test the other?Katenoreply@blogger.com